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JC Sanford: Electronic Effects as Orchestration (by a novice)

Editor’s note:

At various times throughout my tenure as ISJAC blog curator, and scheduled blogging artist fell through late in the game for any number of reasons, so in that case I would often step in to supply a blog for that month. It’s perhaps poetic that for my penultimate curated blog, I am once more in this position. I promise I did not conspire to do this at a time that coincided with the release of my new album, but here you go.

During the pandemic, I, like most of you, was trying to investigate ways I might move forward as an artist once we would all be able to play music together again. For me, part of this came out of regularly playing informally with some friends in my little town of Northfield, Minnesota. Both of these guys had very different musical training than me, but they had an understanding of the electronic side of things that I had never investigated. So in our collective improvisations, I started to experiment with a delay/loop pedal. Now I’ve heard countless horn players utilizing electronics over the years, none more notable to me than one of my most important improvisational influences, trombonist Hal Crook. But I had long resisted going down the pedal rabbit hole, partially because of expense, but also I thought I had enough to focus on as a trombonist/composer/bandleader/etc., that I just didn’t see it as practical to add another dimension to what I was doing musically. But this new sonic experience and the feedback I started to receive when using this new technique on live gigs awakened an interest I had long avoided.

When I began to explore these electronic possibilities more deeply, I was concerned I was kind of a poser with so many experienced guitarists (and horn players) having a greater understanding of what was available and how it works. It was also important to me not to have my inexperienced use of these pedals feel like a gimmick, but rather an extension of my musical language. So I started off breaking in my initial set of electronics in mostly improvisational settings where I could really experiment with colors and layering. I eventually gained enough control of my equipment to also begin to use it while playing over jazz standards. But I felt like it was time to begin to utilize these tools in a more directed way. Out of that grew my new group EQ (Electric Quartet), which, in addition to myself on trombone and effects, included effects-monster guitarist (Toivo Hannigan) and electric bass specificalist (Erik Fratzke). This put me in the right sonic environment, but writing music for this specific ensemble forced me to think about orchestration in a different way.

I have long had an interest in orchestrational investigations via non-standard ensemble instrumentation, both in small and large group settings. While I was a grad student at New England Conservatory, I started a trio with myself on trombone plus two saxophonists called Triocracy, which had several iterations over the years depending on my residence of the time, but is represented most recently on the album Pyramid Scheme. This group was initially formed largely out of the frustration that my favorite rhythm section players in Boston at the time were rarely available, but it yielded some really interesting compositional and arranging results that wouldn’t have existed if I had been able to employ a more traditional horns-with-rhythm-section band. More recently in 2023, I released an album with pianist Michael Cain and bassist Anthony Cox (no drums) called New Past, another assemblage of instruments that I would think would not be considered the most common.

But probably some of my most notable orchestrational adventures occurred in a large ensemble setting. Like many modern jazz big band composer-arrangers, I took full advantage of both woodwind and brass doubles, especially once I had access to players with a vast number of instruments available to them in NYC. But my affiliation with the composers federation Pulse (with Joseph C. Phillips, Jr., Darcy James Argue, Joshua Shneider, and others) and our projects that featured a variety of mixed chamber ensembles really opened my ears to what I wanted to do with my own ensemble. So I shifted my more “traditional” jazz orchestra to a 15-piece hybrid jazz band/chamber orchestra to fulfill more of my orchestrational desires.

I think this demonstrates how I had really thought about orchestrational options through contrasting/complementary instrumental timbres, but using electronic effects as orchestration was a new way of thinking. I wanted to see how I could use these new colors in a pre-determined context in addition to the improvisational experimentations I had been doing, and how I might combine those effects with some of my own compositional philosophies and techniques.

The first track “ausgleicht” (loosely meaning “balanced” in German) is a good example of how I planned out what my effects could do color-wise, and how that orchestrational concept combined with my compositional one. I have written a number of pieces that contain a clear duality to them in one way or another, like two contrasting sections, characters, moods, etc. (Your Word Alone is a prime example), so I thought I would try and add another dimension of timbral duality to the mix, as well.

It begins with a rocking-out mixed meter ostinato played by the rhythm section, while I use a chorus-effected sustained sound above that, soon adding a perfect 4th above with one of my harmonizer pedals.

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After this initial statement, the band tune changes character by metrically modulating to a flowing 12/8. At that point, my sound also shifts character by switching to a more “acoustic” sound, which creates a notable contrast.

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This alternation of color and groove characters carries on through the track, until a final statement of the melody, where I superimpose the initial 12/8 “head” material over the mixed-meter ostinato. To add to the intensity here, I add not one 4th, but two stacked 4ths above, creating a much thicker texture, really building the intensity in a climactic moment. Again, this is a decision I could not have made without the particular equipment I have, which includes two separate harmonizer pedals.

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Here’s the full track if you’d like to hear it all in context.

I took a different approach when conceiving of my arrangement of Stevie Wonder’s “Love’s in Need of Love Today,” again being inspired by the “forces” available to me. I’ve always loved how many Stevie tunes, particularly this one, would vamp the ending for extended periods of time, almost uncomfortably so. So I wanted to see if I could capture that vibe, even without having my own backup singers. So after a solo opening colored by a delay effect, I used the combination of the diatonic triad function of my harmonizer pedal (it’s great to have my own personal horn section available at the push of a button!) and my loop pedal to try and capture that mood so that I could then improvise over the top of that repeating chorus. I added an additional octave with my second harmonizer to try and emulate Stevie’s soaring improvisational descants while we eventually blend into a more introspective and questioning ending.

 

 

Again, here’s the full track:

Bottom line: I still feel like a novice with all this stuff and that I’m just scratching the surface of my understanding of what’s possible. And clearly nothing I’m doing with these effects is novel or innovative in any way. Did I violate some rule by jumping in so uniformed and inexperienced? My belief is no, since I really feel like I’ve approached this new world honestly and authentically (and I know I don’t know what I don’t know). But I do plan to keep heading down this road as I investigate more sonic possibilities. And I intend to follow the advice my great mentor Bob Brookmeyer gave to another of my great mentors Jim McNeely: “Write another one.” So I’ll continue to see where that leads.

 

https://jcsanford.bandcamp.com/album/denki


About the Author:

JC Sanford has been recognized in the DownBeat Magazine Critic’s Poll over the past ten years, in the trombone, big band and arranger categories. While he originally built a reputation through big band writing, Sanford has forayed into many other areas, including composing for solo piano, wind and brass formations, and various mixed chamber ensembles, and often his original works defy labels such as “jazz” or “classical”. A founding member of the composers’ federation Pulse (with Darcy James Argue and Joseph C. Phillips, Jr.), Sanford was a member of the BMI Jazz Composer’s Workshop led by Jim McNeely and Mike Abene for five years. His works have been performed by John Abercrombie, Lew Soloff, Dave Liebman, Danilo Perez, and a number of universities and high schools across the United States.

His 2014 debut recording with the JC Sanford Orchestra entitled Views From The Inside yielded international acclaim and was awarded a 2014 Aaron Copland Fund Recording Grant alongside organizations and ensembles such as the Seattle Symphony, Nonesuch Records, and American Composers Forum. He is also the leader of several small groups: the JC Sanford Quartet, the Imminent Standards Trio, the chamber jazz trio Triocracy, the New Past Trio with pianist Michael Cain and bassist Anthony Cox, and EQ (Electric Quartet).

Sanford is in high demand as a conductor of new original music. He conducts the Grammy-nominated John Hollenbeck Large Ensemble, the Alan Ferber Nonet with Strings, the Frank Carlberg Large Ensemble, and the Alice Coltrane Orchestra, featuring Ravi Coltrane and Jack DeJohnette. He recently was guest conductor for the North German Radio Big Band (NDR), and Quinsin Nachoff’s new “Patterns in Nature” multimedia project. He was also the curator for the “Size Matters” large ensemble series in Brooklyn for four and a half years.

Since returning to Minnesota with his family in 2016, Sanford has performed as a trombonist in the Twin Cities area with JT Bates, Chris Bates, Davu Seru, Anthony Cox, Babatunde Lea, Zacc Harris, Dave Hagedorn, and Laura Caviani. In 2017, he co-founded the Twin Cities Jazz Composers’ Workshop alongside his wife, Asuka Kakitani. Sanford received a 2018 McKnight Composer Fellowship, a 2019 MN State Arts Board Artist Initiative Grant to record his quartet, 2021 and 2022 Creative Support Grants to record his Imminent Standards Trio, and another in 2023 to record his NEW PAST Trio with Michael Cain and Anthony Cox, and another to record his electric quartet (EQ) in 2025 featuring drummer Satoshi Takeishi. He is currently teaching jazz, Western music theory, and composition courses at Gustavus Adolphus College.

JC Sanford is a fiscal year 2025 recipient of a Creative Support for Individuals grant from the Minnesota State Arts Board. This activity is made possible by the voters of Minnesota through a grant from the Minnesota State Arts Board, thanks to a legislative appropriation from the arts and cultural heritage fund.

Header photo by Asuka Kakitani; Bio photo by Bryan Murray.

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Andy Milne: The Culture of Building Community Through Composition

“As I wind down my time as the ISJAC blog curator, I find myself reflecting on the folks I’ve managed to gather here these last 6 years. So much great insight from composers and arrangers about their own work, other’s work, and general philosophical considerations. I hope they’ve all been of great value and variety to the readers, but one blog has always stuck with me as being particularly unique and deep. So I’d like to repost Andy Milne’s blo from August 2021. If you hadn’t already absorbed it, here’s another chance. Enjoy!” –JC Sanford


For the majority of my career, I’ve composed music, largely for ensembles I lead or co-lead. During my early years playing in Steve Coleman’s bands, I occasionally had the opportunity to compose for his groups. Aside from the musical rewards of developing one’s voice within Steve’s universe, it was also gratifying to be in a band– not just by name in the generic sense–, but also to be able to contribute beyond one’s instrumental (or vocal) role.

While thinking about what I wanted to explore for this article, it occurred to me that one of the things that I think about when pondering the subject of composition in jazz, is the contemporary role and function of composition and the composer. There was a time in the somewhat distant chronology of jazz, where there was a universally shared repertoire, typically referred to as “standards.” Of course, there were also the great bands performing the works of their celebrated leaders: Fletcher Henderson, Duke Ellington, and Charles Mingus, to name a few. We are of course aware that many jazz musicians during the 30s, 40s and 50s composed their own pieces, but I wonder if all of them identified as “composers” in the same spirit that so many musicians active on the scene do today. When I think of a bandleader like Art Blakey, I think of all the composers he mentored by virtue of leading a “band” with a culture that supported a different kind of community, one that often appears absent in so many of our current leader/composer ensembles (my own included.) Horace Silver, Wayne Shorter and Donald Brown all come to mind as exemplary illustrations of how the band/community culture of the 50s and 60s helped to foster distinct voices, stylistic diversity and deeply refined personal compositional aesthetics.

Considering that one of the more distinguished aspects of jazz is the pivotal role of collective and individual improvisation, it is interesting how composition has increasingly received more and more airtime within our contemporary jazz discourse. It is particularly interesting when examined within the larger public discussions surrounding diversity, equity and inclusion, and within the music education conversations around creating parity for African-American and other non-Western European traditions. In some ways, it seems that creating new works has become the great incentivizer, despite the fact that every time we perform a piece of music with improvisation at its core, we are creating new works. Perhaps the emergence of service organizations and foundations offering commissioning opportunities and grants for composers has contributed to what appears, to me on the surface, as a profound shift. Especially when compared to the relationship to composition versus arrangement and/or interpretation in the 1960s. Of course, it is undisputed that Ornette Coleman, Thad Jones, Dave Brubeck and Mary-Lou Williams were all prolific composers. What interests me is how might they have regarded their roles as composers, relative to their identities as performers/improvisers and artists as a whole.

I recently had the pleasure of moderating a conversation between my students and Sir Ron Carter. It was fascinating to hear him reflect on the time in his life when he did four or five record dates a week. He described how it was quite normal to arrive at the studio and be faced with the reality that the bandleader didn’t necessarily have an entire album’s worth of material. According to Carter, very often the solution was to solicit original material from the side musicians, sometimes in advance, sometimes at the session. I can only surmise how this everyday occurrence probably contributed to the appearance of so many compositions by Andrew Hill, Joe Henderson, Joe Chambers, or Harold Land on the recordings of Bobby Hutcherson for example. With so much recording happening during this prolific period in the history of jazz, labels, producers, and performers were perhaps more amenable to improvising over compositional sketches, versus polished, semi through-composed, multi-page arrangements.

Thinking back to how my compositions found their way onto Steve Coleman’s recordings in the early 1990s, the culture wasn’t quite like that described by Ron Carter, nor that of Art Blakley’s bands, but perhaps somewhere in between. At that time, the members of the band identified with being integral members of a tight knit group and the music that we all contributed to these recordings (“The Tao of Mad Phat” and “Drop Kick” in particular) reflected our artistic, cultural and personal relationships with one another. Not long after this, Steve began to explore compositional structures that in part, were directly linked to mathematical representations of the musicians’ astrology. In essence, we were given material that was constructed to formulate a personal and scientific resonance. Part of Steve’s role as composer was to determine how to combine these very personal structures. At the time, I struggled as an improviser to make the translation from the more familiar musical constructs using vertical harmonic structures, rhythmic melodies and pitch-based melodies, to these new compositional frameworks.

I’ll fast forward about 15 years to 2010 when I became curious with creating music that harnessed individual musicians’ emotional DNA as source material for the composition. By this time, I had been leading various bands and projects for about 20 years and had developed a compositional voice through an enduring commitment to writing for these groups. I also had numerous sideman experiences performing other bandleaders’ compositions, AND some distance perspective from my very immersive 10 years performing with Steve Coleman. What emerged was a fascination with why we, as performers, often experience differing degrees of synchronicity with the material to which we’re asked to contribute improvised solos and interpretations. Simply put, I was somewhat obsessed with why any one of us was or wasn’t “feeling it”, AND how I might be able to short circuit these invisible preferences and optimize my compositions for specific performers. Although not terribly practical from the point of view of having modular flexibility for selecting musicians, it was for me, the flipside to what I had experienced with Steve Coleman back in the mid-1990s.

My inquiry, which ultimately included an examination of homeopathy and neuroscience, yielded several rearrangements of my existing compositions, as well as an entirely new project and recording, “The Seasons of Being,” released in 2018. At first, I was determined to develop a mathematical formula for translating the emotional profiles I was uncovering about my musicians into personalized pitch sets and rhythmic codes. I eventually opted to direct my findings into sound and texture impressions that mirrored the essence of what was being revealed as the musician’s “sonic remedy.”

Without getting overly technical, as I reflect upon this period of artistic inquiry, my mind is drawn to some interesting universal themes that emerge which I want share. As a music educator, I both mentor and witness how the infatuation with composition is, to some degree, inseparable with other current social trends. Namely, self-promotion, credit-less appropriation and an insatiable desire for envelope pushing. On the surface, the idea of pushing boundaries and encouraging innovation are cornerstones for nearly all artists and are certainly forces which have fueled the most important evolutions in music and jazz specifically. What’s the problem with innovating? Nothing really. I am a bit little less merciful with regard to self-promotion and credit-less appropriation as I find these two trends to be particularly disheartening as we survey the human, cultural and environmental toll of the past 25 years of global digital economic expansion. We are at a point where the Marxist “means of production” are within reach of an ever-increasing demographic. With this newfound democratization for creating and publishing “content,” comes a responsibility — a stewardship — which I, frankly, rarely if ever hear discussed.

My intent here is not to be a downer. I sincerely hope that, embedded within the revelations of Covid-19, there will be a commitment to create meaningful art that is respectful of the sacrifices of past generations; innovative, not just for the sake of stroking oneself on the back in a myopic spirit of being innovative; and an expression of humanism, honesty and integrity. There are jazz academies in almost every corner of the globe, many emphasizing the mastery of technique over the study of culture, community and the aesthetic intersections of the individual and the collective. I believe we have a responsibility to uphold HOW and WHY this music came to be, not just WHAT, and by WHOM. It is, of course, very inspiring to hear the amazing creations of so many capable and talented artists who are presenting exceptional musical works for all to enjoy. I just hope we remember that not every piece needs to be released, not every moment needs to be captured and shared, and spending equal amounts of time celebrating those who are no longer with us isn’t abdicating one’s creative responsibilities but rather contributing to an embodiment of refining one’s understanding of self. Community engagement and the uplifting of others can yield great artistic magic. As improvisers, we experience this every day. In a way, I’m motivated to express these ideas as a reminder to myself as I re-emerge into a post-Covid scene.

Hang, honor, hold-space

Andy Milne

 


About the Author:

For more than 30 years, two-time Juno Award winning pianist/composer Andy Milne has demonstrated boundless versatility, collaborating with dancers, film makers, authors, visual artists, poets and musicians spanning multiple genres. He has released

12 recordings as a leader or co-leader, and is actively composing for orchestra, chamber ensembles, and scoring for film and television. A fearless improviser and respected voice at the heart of New York’s creative jazz scene, Milne has recorded and toured throughout the world with Ravi Coltrane, Ralph Alessi, Carlos Ward, Carla Cook and Steve Coleman, and has collaborated with a range of artists including Andrew Cyrille, Sekou Sundiata, Avery Brooks, Bruce Cockburn, Fred Hersch, Ben Monder, Dianne Reeves, Jen Shyu, Tyshawn Sorey and Jamie Baum.

In 2024, The Toronto Symphony, along with featured saxophone soloist Joe Lovano, premiered select Milne orchestral arrangements as part of the John Coltrane: Legacy for Orchestra project. These works were also performed by the BBC Concert Orchestra and Boston Symphony Orchestra. Another 2024 highlight for Milne included the premiere of Milne’s piano quintet, commissioned by the Banff International String Quartet Competition, and performed by Milne and the Isidore String Quartet. In addition, his score for the “Revolution Redux” episode of the CBC Television documentary series “Black Life – Untold Stories” was nominated for a Canadian Screen Music Award. Milne’s music can also be heard in the Emmy nominated Showtime series “Fellow Travelers”, for which he served as a music arranger and director, and cast member. Milne’s career scoring for film and tv began in 2011, when he scored The Captains and six additional Star Trek themed documentaries for acclaimed actor/director William Shatner. It was during this period that Milne’s foray into composing for orchestra would blossom. He subsequently attended the Jazz Composers Orchestra Institute at UCLA under the direction of George Lewis in 2012, and in 2013, was invited to compose for the American Composers Orchestra’s JCOI New Music Readings.

A former student of Oscar Peterson, Milne was at the center of the M-BASE Collective as a core member of saxophonist Steve Coleman’s bands in the 1990s, performing frequently with Cassandra Wilson and Greg Osby. After a formative apprenticeship with Coleman, Milne stepped out on his own to conquer his own musical frontiers. For the next two decades, he created multiple inspired projects, including his longstanding quintet Dapp Theory.

In 2017, Enriched with creative insights from his multiple projects, Milne formed his latest group, UNISON, to return to his first love: exploring the intimacy of the piano trio. The synchronistic relationship Milne enjoys with his bandmates represents the complimentary threads within the fabric of Milne’s piano trio philosophy — the intersection of texture and groove. Unison’s 2024 Sunnyside Records release “Time Will Tell” was nominated for a 2025 Juno Award and was included on numerous “best of 2024” lists. Their 2020 debut, “The reMission” won the 2021 JUNO Award for Jazz Album of the Year: Group and received widespread media praise.

In 2014, with support from The Japan Foundation and New Music USA, Milne premiered Strings & Serpents at Lincoln Center. The interdisciplinary collaboration combines two pianos and two kotos with animation depicting The Rainbow Serpent Mythology. A synthesis of Japanese and Western structures in terms of melody, form, improvisational language and rhythm, the work merges musical and visual forms into a unified experience.

One of Milne’s most ambitious projects, The Seasons of Being, showcases a 10-piece ensemble featuring Dapp Theory, plus five distinguished guest improvisers. Commissioned by Chamber Music America, the music explores the body, spirit and mind on music, using the diagnostic principles of homeopathy to captivate the emotional characterization of each soloist. It premiered at Millersville University and Jazz at Lincoln Center in 2015. The recording, released on Sunnyside Records in 2018 was awarded the 2019 Juno Award for Jazz Album of the Year: Group. This special project followed the dynamic 2014 Dapp Theory release Forward in all Directions, produced by multi-Grammy winner, Jimmy Haslip.

Milne’s early Dapp Theory recordings helped forge a foundation for the creative diversity he would explore in subsequent projects. Forming Dapp Theory in 1998, Milne cited his desire to “tell passionate stories, promote peace and inspire collective responsibility towards uplifting the human spiritual condition.” Milne used rhythm to bend listeners’ minds and bodies, mixing R&B, jazz, rock, pop and hip-hop influences, and incorporating free-style and composed lyrics to promote a profound sense of social commentary within the music. One of the most compelling expressions of these ingredients was Milne’s ambitious collaboration with Canadian folk-rock icon Bruce Cockburn on the 2003 Concord Records release, Y’all Just Don’t Know.

In 2008, Milne was awarded the French-America Jazz Exchange from Chamber Music America and formed Crystal Magnets, a duo piano collaboration with French pianist Benoît Delbecq. Inspired by the 5.0 surround sound format, Milne set out to compose for the medium and capture sound in harmony with that environment. During their recording residency at The Banff Centre, Milne and Delbecq exploited the unique potential for placing specific compositional elements in distinct regions of the surround sound mix. In 2009, Songlines Recordings released Where is Pannonica?, which The New York Times lauded as a “strangely beautiful new album” from two “resourcefully contemporary pianists, both drawn to quixotic interrogations of harmony and timbre.”

Milne released two unique piano recordings in 2007. Both CDs received wide critical acclaim, presenting complementary reflections of his questing musical personality. Dreams and False Alarms [SongLines] features deeply considered re-workings of long- remembered pop/rock/folk/reggae classics, reaffirming and expanding Milne’s creative process as a jazz improviser. Scenarios [Obliqsound] presents a more textural, almost cinematic series of intimate duo encounters with harmonica virtuoso Grégoire Maret. Their duo developed naturally during Maret’s four years as a member of Dapp Theory. Also in 2007, Milne collaborated with tap dancer/choreographer Heather Cornell to create Finding Synesthesia, which premiered that year at the London Jazz Festival. Together they combined a wide and unexpected range of sounds and influences, integrally weaving tap into the texture and sound of the orchestration.

Milne is a Yamaha Artist and sought-after educator, currently a full-time assistant professor of music at The University of Michigan and most recently a celebrated panelist at the 2025 National Conference for Keyboard Pedagogy. He has received numerous awards and commissions, including the prestigious Civitella Fellowship in Italy.

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Jim McNeely: Pausing at 70

For several reasons, we’ve decided from time to time we will revisit some older blogs from the “vault,” bringing attention to older artists you may have missed or we feel you could maybe use some reminding of. It was a no-brainer to unearth this article from Jim McNeely from August 2019, given Jim’s importance to so many composers of all levels though most of his adult life (myself included, of course). What Jim says below is of course still relevant 6 years later, and likely will be for as long as people are writing large ensemble music of any flavor. So enjoy the wisdom, the humor, and the approachability so many of us have grown to love over the years. And don’t forget to follow the sage advice!
JC Sanford, ISJAC blog curator

 


I recently lurched into my 70th year–my eighth decade (sobering words to write!). Yes, “age is just a number,” I know.  But 70 has caused me to pause and reflect on some of my experiences, and more importantly, what I’ve learned from them.  There is one overriding theme: every time my age would hit a “Big X-0 (4-0, 5-0, etc.)” I would get a sense of not only how much I had learned, but also how much more I didn’t know. With each new decade I felt that both the “knowns” and “unknowns” had increased. In reaching the “Big 7-0” I think I’ve learned an incredible amount, yet I’m awestruck by all that’s left to learn.  

Some History

Growing up on the north side of Chicago, I knew little about jazz until I was about 13. I had taken piano lessons since the age of six. My teacher, Bruno Michelotti, also taught me theory, saxophone and clarinet. Being a nice Catholic boy, I was considering two different Catholic high schools.  One Sunday afternoon I saw the “stage band” from Notre Dame High School in Niles on a local television broadcast.  Something in me said “yes!” I entered NDHS as a freshman in 1963. Little did I know where that would take me.

In my sophomore year my father bought me Russ Garcia’s The Professional Arranger Composer. I devoured it; I learned so much about theory, voicings, and melodic writing from this book.  From that I got the idea to write a big band arrangement.  My band director was Rev. George Wiskirchen, who was one of the premier big band educators in the Chicago area.  It was my fortune to be in his school; and he encouraged me to write that arrangement (he was also the first person to tell me to “comp” behind a soloist).  I found an Ernie Wilkins blues head called Blues Go Away. I wrote a five-chorus arrangement: unison sax melody, sax soli melody, solo chorus with background, shout chorus, and out melody.  I’ll never forget the first reading: sax melody, fine; sax soli: when they first burst into 5-part harmony I thought it was the coolest thing I’d ever heard.  I thought, “Garcia was right, that’s how you do it!” Solo chorus and background, passable. Shout chorus was an unmitigated disaster.  Out chorus, fine.  I thought, “The stuff that sounds good I’ll keep doing; the stuff that sounds bad, I’ve gotta find a different way.” That process has continued through today.

In spite of the shout chorus disaster, Father George was encouraging.  I went on to write six or seven more big band arrangements while in high school.  I got to study a few scores along the way (including copying parts from a few of Oliver Nelson’s original pencil scores). The learning continued. One time I brought in Freak Out!, the first album by Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention. I played a couple of cuts for Fr. George.  My adolescent mind thought “This will really bug him, heh-heh.” He looked at me and said, “Why don’t you write something like that for the band?” Completely called my bluff.  And I wrote! He also had me and my friend Nick Talarico write music for the school’s marching band. One show featured a medley of She’s Only a Bird In a Gilded Cage, segueing into Coltrane’s treatment of My Favorite Things (I got those sousaphones pumping!). Along with having to deal with challenges like this, I also got my first invaluable experience writing to a deadline.

In 1966 I heard the University of Illinois Big Band at the Collegiate Jazz Festival at Notre Dame University. Again, something in me said “Yes!” So in 1967 I entered the U. of I. School of Music. There was a student in the graduate program there named Jim Knapp.  He was writing some gorgeous music for big band, both original compositions and arrangements of standards.  I was so intimidated by him I didn’t write a note until he got his degree and left for Seattle (where he still resides, still writing remarkable music). I was encouraged by John Garvey, the director of the U. of I. Jazz Band.  Again, some things worked, some things didn’t.  As a composition major, I was studying with Morgan Powell, a wonderful composer and trombonist who was writing music deep in the cracks between jazz and contemporary classical chamber music.  The music I wrote as part of our lessons was mostly for mixed ensembles.  Along with classes in counterpoint and fugue, I was able to take classes in ancient and medieval music, African music and Persian classical music. I studied Balinese gamelan music and serial composition. So much music in the world!

With both my high school and university experiences, I was lucky: there was no one there to tell me “you can’t do this”; “you’re not supposed to do that.” And I learned that, as with my piano playing, the more I did it, the better it sounded. I made decisions faster.  I developed more options. Took more chances.

The Process 

I recently finished writing the forward to a remarkable book called Bob Brookmeyer in Conversation with Dave Rivello (coming out soon on ArtistShare). In it Bob imparts his general advice for composers: “Write music.” Two words. My early experiences taught me that you learn to write music by writing music. You can glean information from scores, teachers, recordings, and peers. It’s all there, good and important.  But unless you write, you will never grow.

Here is the basic process:

  1. Write some music
  2. Hear your music played
  3. Evaluate your music
  4. Repeat 1, 2, & 3

To flesh this out:

1) Composition; composer. These are loaded words in Western culture.  We are told that composition is difficult. We are told that Bach, Beethoven, etc. were THE GREAT MASTERS. Okay, they actually were, along with a lot of other folks, but that doesn’t take the rest of us out of the picture.  If I tell my non-musician neighbors that I write music, their response is “oh, nice”.  If I tell other neighbors that I am a composer, gasps and “oh-wows” ensue. Forget that nonsense. Composition essentially requires courage, bolstered by confidence.  Confidence in the note I’m putting on the paper.  Confidence that I can follow that note with another one.  Confidence that my musical ideas are valid simply because they are there.  Confidence that my musical ideas are valid on their own terms, not in comparison with anyone else, no matter how much I may admire them. Confidence that I have the tools to shape and develop my ideas. Confidence in my ability to get the piece finished and played. The last four “confidences” might take time to achieve.  But the first–confidence that this one note must go on the paper, and I’ll find another to follow or precede it–is crucial.  And that confidence comes from doing, doing, doing and doing.

2) If you want to write music for human players, you must hear your music played by human players (duh).  Computer playback is simply not good enough. Having your music played live is the only way to develop gut feelings about balance, timbre, density, range, and playability.  Have it played in a reading session; better yet a real rehearsal, or a composition workshop. Ideally, rehearse it to the point where it can be performed. More than once. Your music will start to tell you what it wants and needs.

3) Listen to what you’ve written and evaluate it with absolute, brutal honesty. What sounds the way you thought it would? What sounds different? Why? Sometimes a student will tell me “That’s what I’m hearing.” Is it really? Maybe that’s what you kinda, sorta thought it might sound like. Or maybe you were thinking, but not really hearing anything at all. A defensive attitude will just get in your way.

4) Repeat—as often as you can.

Writing, Learning, Writing, Learning

When I moved to New York City in 1975 I had little thought of pursuing a writing career.  I wanted to play the piano. Meet people. Play with some of the well-known bands at the time.  When I joined Thad Jones/Mel Lewis in 1978 I thought, “I’m playing this great music of Thad’s, and Bob Brookmeyer’s. Who am I to write for this band?” That changed the next year when Thad left to live in Denmark, and Brookmeyer came in as musical director of the newly-titled Mel Lewis and the Jazz Orchestra.  Bob knew I wrote small group music, and I tried to talk a good game about writing for big bands.  He encouraged me to write something for Mel.  So I did. We rehearsed it, and actually attempted to play it on a few Mondays. It was dreadfully overwritten. But Bob heard a few things of value, and said, “Write another one.” That’s one of the greatest things I’d ever heard in my life! So I did. The second one was a little better. Around this time I had one of the greatest arranging lessons ever. Mel had hired a French Horn player and wanted me to write her some horn parts. Kendor Music sent me ten scores of Thad’s (this was the pre-Inside the Score era). I had to really analyze what he did in order to squeeze in another note between the trumpets and the trombones. I felt like a whole world had opened up. I no longer just thought I heard what was in his writing, I actually saw it, and got my hands on the piano to play it. I began to sense that until then I had really been writing piano music, merely transferring it to the score paper. “This C# is in the range of a trumpet, I guess I’ll put it in trumpet 3.” Now I was starting to hear a band when I wrote. The piano became more a medium through which I would hear the ensemble, not simply a piano. This was a gradual process that took many years to mature, but it started with writing those French Horn parts.

I learned other lessons from musicians in Mel’s band.  I’d brought in one piece, and at the rehearsal lead trumpeter Earl Gardner said, ”McNeely, you’ve got to give us some time to rest.” I said, “Well, after the head you guys don’t play for a long time.” Earl said, “No, it’s that when we’re playing, we need to get the horns off our faces some of the time.” My semester of trumpet class at the U. of Ill. hadn’t prepared me for this! In another arrangement I started with flügelhorns going up to a double high F#. After passing out the parts the trumpet players laughed.  Again, Earl: “McNeely, do you really want this?” Not really knowing what I wanted, of course I said “Yes, it is.” “Okay!” We played it. I immediately understood the hilarity and re-wrote the intro.

My time with Mel’s band (’79-’84) afforded me another incredible arranging lesson: to sit at the piano every Monday, playing such great music. Hearing the harmonies; the inner voices (especially first tenor, closest to the piano); Thad’s rhythmic language; Brookmeyer’s cranky harmonies. I loved it all, week after week. It was learning by osmosis. Write—hear—evaluate—repeat.

My working with Brookmeyer led to five years of writing and conducting music for the WDR Big Band in Cologne, Germany.  I had pretty much carte blanche with them.  I wrote a lot of original music, some for soloists like John Scofield, David Liebman and Phil Woods, and some without a “name” soloist. I was able to try so many new ideas, and get immediate feedback, from the musicians and from my own listening.  For one project I realized that brass mutes were a big mystery to me.  So I threw caution to the wind and just went for it.  Every arrangement had different combinations of mutes, and a lot of woodwinds. Most of it worked, some of it didn’t. And I learned a lot. Write—hear—evaluate—repeat.

Being “of a certain age” I came up writing with pencil and paper.  I’m glad I did.  Pencil, paper and keyboard get my hands on the music. The process is physical and tactile.  One time, years ago, I decided to try composing directly on the computer. I felt like I was looking at the music through a window—like visiting someone in prison.  I decided I wanted to be in touch with the music.  I’ve since learned the value and role of the computer, especially with all the writing I do for European ensembles.  I do the final stages of scoring in Finale.  But the beginning and middle of the process are done with a pencil—I love the feel of the paper and the smell of the eraser.  I love the anticipation of looking at blank pages of a large-format music manuscript book—wow, what’s going to happen here? No bar lines, no systems—plenty of room to let the imagination flow. Before I know it, it’s filled with scribbles. I use some, I don’t use others. But they are all part of the overall process.  A leads to B leads to C leads to D…..leads to R. I might continue on to W, but then decide to stay with R. But R would not exist without A-Q and S-W.

People who’ve studied with me know that I am very big on planning a piece. The shape. The form. The color. The surface sound. But I’ve also learned to be flexible in those regards. In 1993 Jon Faddis asked me to arrange a program of songs from the Benny Goodman repertoire for the Carnegie Hall Jazz Band. One of tunes was Louis Prima’s Sing, Sing, Sing. Goodman’s original version featured a free duet between himself and drummer Gene Krupa.  For the mid-‘30’s this was quite an advanced concept.  Thinking of this, as well as the duos that John Coltrane played with Elvin Jones or Rashied Ali on drums, I wanted to feature David Liebman on soprano sax and Victor Lewis on drums. Using Goodman’s 1938 Carnegie Hall recording as a loose model, I carefully planned my arrangement.  I composed call-and-response figures for the band, with Lewis answering.  Then Liebman would solo, followed by a similar composed call-and-response section with him. I orchestrated the drum solo section and started sketching the section for Lieb.  That’s when the phone rang.

The copyist, rightfully concerned about the approaching deadline, told me, “I need the score tomorrow.” I promised her I would overnight the score that evening.  I hoped the FedEx guy would come at 8.  He showed up at 7.  My wife scrambled to put together the envelope and mailing label.  I quickly scribbled “4 bars Lieb, 4 bars band answers; 2 bars Lieb, 2 bars band” into the score, then “copy mm. 180-195” and tacked a final bar onto the score.  Folded it up, put it in the envelope and sent it off.  I felt that I had really blown it, because I wouldn’t get a chance to show off my carefully crafted section for David.

It turned out that the arrangement as finally written and performed at Carnegie was tremendously exciting. Building off of the orchestrated drum passage, Lieb and the band screamed through the whole final section. Most of the audience went wild, and some walked out. I was thrilled with both reactions. Thanks to the copyist and the FedEx guy, I got my first Grammy nomination with this arrangement.  More importantly, I learned that sometimes it’s possible to over-think, and over-plan.  It’s jazz.  Always consider the balance between the pre-written and the improvised.  The piece isn’t about me. It’s about the music. Write—hear—evaluate—repeat.

Sing, Sing, Sing Excerpts (Carnegie Hall, 1993)

The Takeaway

These experiences, along with countless others, helped shape me as a composer, arranger, and teacher.  I had band directors who made time for student composer/arrangers. Teachers who knew the value of a few encouraging words as opposed to a whole mouthful of discouragement. Feedback from musicians playing my music. Copying parts from other people’s scores. The value of both hearing, and later saying “Write another one.” I was fortunate to be in situations where I could ask “What if?”, instead of “Am I allowed to…?”. Where it was okay to take risks, and at the same time accept and learn from the results. I learned that I didn’t know everything, and that’s okay.  That I needed to listen honestly to my writing, then act on what I heard. That I had to acknowledge my weaknesses, not as failings but as part of being human—it was up to me to strengthen them. That not everyone will love what I do.  And as important as thinking, mulling, stewing, and planning are, action—doing—overrides them all.

Speaking of doing, I’ve got a lot more writing to do; so it’s time to get back to my studio. A deadline is fast approaching, with six arrangements due. Time for more action.


About the Author:

Jim McNeely was born in Chicago, moving to New York City in 1975.  In 1978 he joined the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Jazz Orchestra.  He spent six years as a featured soloist with that band and its successor, Mel Lewis and the Jazz Orchestra (now The Vanguard Jazz Orchestra).  1981 saw the beginning of Jim’s 4-year tenure as pianist/composer with the Stan Getz Quartet.  From 1990 until 1995 he held the piano chair in the Phil Woods Quintet.  At the present time, he leads his own tentet, his own trio, and he appears as soloist at concerts and festivals worldwide.

Jim’s reputation as composer/arranger and conductor for large jazz bands continues to flourish and has earned him ten Grammy nominations. In 1996 he re-joined The Vanguard Jazz Orchestra as pianist and Composer-in Residence.  He is also chief conductor of the Frankfurt Radio Big Band. Other recent work includes projects with the Danish Radio Big Band (where he was chief conductor for five years), the Metropole Orchestra (Netherlands), the Swiss Jazz Orchestra, and the Frankfurt Radio Symphony Orchestra. The New York Times has called his writing “exhilarating”; DownBeat has said that his music is “eloquent enough to be profound”.  And he won a Grammy for his work on the Vanguard Jazz Orchestra’s “Monday Night Live at the Village Vanguard” on Planet Arts Records.

Jim has appeared as sideman on numerous recordings led by major artists such as Thad Jones, Mel Lewis, Stan Getz, Bob Brookmeyer, David Liebman, Art Farmer, Robert Watson, and Phil Woods. He has numerous albums under his own name.  The latest is the Grammy-nominated “Barefoot Dances and Other Visions”, with the Frankfurt Radio Big Band on the Planet Arts label (“superb…a feeling for arranging orchestral colors that is magical”—All About Jazz.com)

Teaching is also an important element of Jim’s work. He is on the faculty of Manhattan School of Music. He was involved with the BMI Jazz Composers Workshop for 24 years, including 16 years as musical director. He has appeared at numerous college jazz festivals in the U.S. as performer and clinician. He has also done clinics and major residencies at dozens of institutions in the U.S., Canada, Europe, Japan, China, Australia, New Zealand, and Egypt.

He may be contacted via his website: www.jimmcneely.com

        

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